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		<title>By: &#187; Guvera Beta Test &#8211; My thoughts so far Jason Van Dyk</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Guvera Beta Test &#8211; My thoughts so far Jason Van Dyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 01:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 20:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve almost forgot about this site. It seemed like hype was building up a little bit, but then undelivered as nothing has happened. Sounds to me like they have had another set back or to and wont be launching anything this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve almost forgot about this site. It seemed like hype was building up a little bit, but then undelivered as nothing has happened. Sounds to me like they have had another set back or to and wont be launching anything this year.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 11:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is 100% legit... i have a friend who helped with the organisation of this site.... i dont much about the actual site but this will be good...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is 100% legit&#8230; i have a friend who helped with the organisation of this site&#8230;. i dont much about the actual site but this will be good&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bec</title>
		<link>http://www.jason-v.com/2009/10/12/free-music-enter-guvera/comment-page-1/#comment-242</link>
		<dc:creator>Bec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 01:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey all,

You may be interested to find the following link:

www.guveralimited.com

I don&#039;t think there is any doubt that Guvera will be a massive music revolution on the internet. Presumably many of the biggest brands in the world are already invested. They will be in complete control about how much money they spend to reach their audiences. After all, they can select exactly who they want to target, instead of wasting money on other mass media (such as television and radio), which doesn&#039;t allow advertisers to easily reach a certain demographic.

I have pre-registered already and am excited to see which brands will be targeting me. When it comes down to it, although I could easily download music for free, I would much prefer to support my favourite artists by using this program and letting them receive profits.

Cheers,
Bec</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey all,</p>
<p>You may be interested to find the following link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guveralimited.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.guveralimited.com</a></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think there is any doubt that Guvera will be a massive music revolution on the internet. Presumably many of the biggest brands in the world are already invested. They will be in complete control about how much money they spend to reach their audiences. After all, they can select exactly who they want to target, instead of wasting money on other mass media (such as television and radio), which doesn&#8217;t allow advertisers to easily reach a certain demographic.</p>
<p>I have pre-registered already and am excited to see which brands will be targeting me. When it comes down to it, although I could easily download music for free, I would much prefer to support my favourite artists by using this program and letting them receive profits.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Bec</p>
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		<title>By: mojo</title>
		<link>http://www.jason-v.com/2009/10/12/free-music-enter-guvera/comment-page-1/#comment-229</link>
		<dc:creator>mojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys. I&#039;m a friend of a family member of one of the founders of Guvera. Whilst I dont know much of the specifics of the site I gather from the growing list of clientele the main appeal of the product from advertisers&#039; POV is the ability to directly target their desired market. Coke et al spend however many billions each year on advertising, much of which goes to the very old/very young/those who never use their product. 
A tool that allows them to engage their core market, observe trends in this market and introduce them to other products in their range would seem a huge advantage. 
The above links to the prospectus document shows a look at the early platform. These were outlined in the investor evenings held in Australia during the year. It appears you would have your own Guvera &quot;homepage&quot; and advertisers linked to the content you access (based on your answers to sign-up questions) pay for your downloads.
How they plan to get it out to the masses is anyone&#039;s guess, but here&#039;s hoping it&#039;s a huge success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys. I&#8217;m a friend of a family member of one of the founders of Guvera. Whilst I dont know much of the specifics of the site I gather from the growing list of clientele the main appeal of the product from advertisers&#8217; POV is the ability to directly target their desired market. Coke et al spend however many billions each year on advertising, much of which goes to the very old/very young/those who never use their product.<br />
A tool that allows them to engage their core market, observe trends in this market and introduce them to other products in their range would seem a huge advantage.<br />
The above links to the prospectus document shows a look at the early platform. These were outlined in the investor evenings held in Australia during the year. It appears you would have your own Guvera &#8220;homepage&#8221; and advertisers linked to the content you access (based on your answers to sign-up questions) pay for your downloads.<br />
How they plan to get it out to the masses is anyone&#8217;s guess, but here&#8217;s hoping it&#8217;s a huge success.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 03:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is hard to say the it is &quot;predestined to be a massive hit&quot;. 

One thing which hasn&#039;t been mentioned how Guvera makes money, I&#039;m guessing this may be through some sort of commission or % of each sale. Making interest of the money paid for advertisements before it has been used up? 

We also don&#039;t know the quality of the mp3&#039;s, if there is any embedded advertising in them. How a mp3 from Guvera is compared to from a mp3 a user creates from a CD or downloads elsewhere.

How easy or convenient it is to actually download and add to a users media player?

- It still may be easier for a person to download a song through P2P that automatically gets added to their media player vs a user going to the web, browsing to the site, logging in, searching, downloading, moving/copy to media player ?

How will &quot;Google Music&quot; which is rumored to be released next Wednesday compare as a service to Guvera which at earliest looks like it will launch in December?

Sure Guvera&#039;s model is different to everything at the moment, but the end result for the consumer isn&#039;t.

Too bad I don&#039;t have a Guvera account or might actually be able to find out a lot more details in how it is going to work. So that is why we have to wait and see with out making any claims of how it will go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is hard to say the it is &#8220;predestined to be a massive hit&#8221;. </p>
<p>One thing which hasn&#8217;t been mentioned how Guvera makes money, I&#8217;m guessing this may be through some sort of commission or % of each sale. Making interest of the money paid for advertisements before it has been used up? </p>
<p>We also don&#8217;t know the quality of the mp3&#8242;s, if there is any embedded advertising in them. How a mp3 from Guvera is compared to from a mp3 a user creates from a CD or downloads elsewhere.</p>
<p>How easy or convenient it is to actually download and add to a users media player?</p>
<p>- It still may be easier for a person to download a song through P2P that automatically gets added to their media player vs a user going to the web, browsing to the site, logging in, searching, downloading, moving/copy to media player ?</p>
<p>How will &#8220;Google Music&#8221; which is rumored to be released next Wednesday compare as a service to Guvera which at earliest looks like it will launch in December?</p>
<p>Sure Guvera&#8217;s model is different to everything at the moment, but the end result for the consumer isn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Too bad I don&#8217;t have a Guvera account or might actually be able to find out a lot more details in how it is going to work. So that is why we have to wait and see with out making any claims of how it will go.</p>
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		<title>By: Guvera Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guvera Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Guys

Great concept

Solving the problems of music industry at one end : Music labels get paid !!

Consumer gets if for free !!! WOW 

And advertisers get channel marketing


The commnets above miss the whol point of Guvera model ; channel marketing to the consumer 
where marketing companies get the indidcators from their channels in Guvera. Great

Wha is the value of research for global moghuls markering companies like SAATCHI &amp; SAATCHI
who are clients of Guvera : PRICE LESS

I don&#039;t think only coke would be ging away the lastest hop shot song for free.

Pepsi, Nike, Billabong, Ropcurl...........would be doing the same at the same time &amp; it is the option of consumer to choose which channel to download the free song.

Now that amkes a lot od sense in a merketing / branding world.


Came across the website of Claes Loberg , CEO &amp; founder of Guvera.

Boy is that a big impressive resume.......www.cocojambo.com

Guvera is predestined to ne a massive hit, just can&#039;t wait to download my hits for free, guiltfree,
free of viruses&amp; broken links, while the music labels / artists get paid.

Go Guvera !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Guys</p>
<p>Great concept</p>
<p>Solving the problems of music industry at one end : Music labels get paid !!</p>
<p>Consumer gets if for free !!! WOW </p>
<p>And advertisers get channel marketing</p>
<p>The commnets above miss the whol point of Guvera model ; channel marketing to the consumer<br />
where marketing companies get the indidcators from their channels in Guvera. Great</p>
<p>Wha is the value of research for global moghuls markering companies like SAATCHI &amp; SAATCHI<br />
who are clients of Guvera : PRICE LESS</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think only coke would be ging away the lastest hop shot song for free.</p>
<p>Pepsi, Nike, Billabong, Ropcurl&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..would be doing the same at the same time &amp; it is the option of consumer to choose which channel to download the free song.</p>
<p>Now that amkes a lot od sense in a merketing / branding world.</p>
<p>Came across the website of Claes Loberg , CEO &amp; founder of Guvera.</p>
<p>Boy is that a big impressive resume&#8230;&#8230;.www.cocojambo.com</p>
<p>Guvera is predestined to ne a massive hit, just can&#8217;t wait to download my hits for free, guiltfree,<br />
free of viruses&amp; broken links, while the music labels / artists get paid.</p>
<p>Go Guvera !!</p>
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		<title>By: gofindjp</title>
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		<dc:creator>gofindjp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 04:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason

Don&#039;t get me wrong, I hope everything goes sweetly for Guvera, what a great thing if it works... for everybody. But there&#039;s just something about those aforementioned hypothetical figures that just don&#039;t add up. 

I&#039;d love to see how they work out the business model Guvera uses to sell it to advertisers. I&#039;m sure it&#039;s all good, but it seems to me that there&#039;s something a bit skewiff going on. 

Dare I say it, it almost sounds like something out of the days of pyramid parties - like in the early days it hums and everyone makes millions, but it doesn&#039;t take long before it can no longer sustain itself.

How long would Coke want to go on paying anything like $1.50 to hit one consumer once?

Just a thought.

gofindjp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I hope everything goes sweetly for Guvera, what a great thing if it works&#8230; for everybody. But there&#8217;s just something about those aforementioned hypothetical figures that just don&#8217;t add up. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to see how they work out the business model Guvera uses to sell it to advertisers. I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s all good, but it seems to me that there&#8217;s something a bit skewiff going on. </p>
<p>Dare I say it, it almost sounds like something out of the days of pyramid parties &#8211; like in the early days it hums and everyone makes millions, but it doesn&#8217;t take long before it can no longer sustain itself.</p>
<p>How long would Coke want to go on paying anything like $1.50 to hit one consumer once?</p>
<p>Just a thought.</p>
<p>gofindjp</p>
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		<title>By: gofindjp</title>
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		<dc:creator>gofindjp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 03:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason

[&quot;So the user knows that if “I” download song a, from Coke it will cost Coke $1.50 (or whatever the cost is).&quot;]

Now that&#039;s the part that will be interesting... Let&#039;s say Guvera goes off. Then 100,000,000 people globally want to download the latest hit - just one, the one everybody wants right now. Coke happens to be sponsoring that song. Will they pay up USD$150,000,000?

I find it very hard to believe that could ever work.

You&#039;re right, we&#039;ll have to see what happens.

gofindjp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason</p>
<p>["So the user knows that if “I” download song a, from Coke it will cost Coke $1.50 (or whatever the cost is)."]</p>
<p>Now that&#8217;s the part that will be interesting&#8230; Let&#8217;s say Guvera goes off. Then 100,000,000 people globally want to download the latest hit &#8211; just one, the one everybody wants right now. Coke happens to be sponsoring that song. Will they pay up USD$150,000,000?</p>
<p>I find it very hard to believe that could ever work.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, we&#8217;ll have to see what happens.</p>
<p>gofindjp</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 03:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not all songs are available iTunes and certain artists, companies aren&#039;t available. This goes to my point that you can&#039;t be dependant on one particular model/ avenue.

Also business who work through iTunes have complained about their pricing policy the apple has enforced in the past. 

Good to see you mentioned that &quot;normally&quot; people wont share songs they have downloaded on iTunes.

I see your point on value, but what if you applied that concept to a friend giving you a CD? The value to the friend is low as they wouldn&#039;t get the CD themselves. So do you count that as a loss for the industry, or do you count that as potential value that the friend may enjoy it and place a greater value on the next CD in future?

Guvera still puts a value on each song, as from what I can tell a user will have go through an channel which is heavily marketed to download the song. Which the user is aware of that it will cost that advertiser money. So the user knows that if &quot;I&quot; download song a, from Coke it will cost Coke $1.50 (or whatever the cost is).

I think in time and if the service gets popular, Guvera will find that Coke wont place such a great value on the song (as if a million people download the song in a week, the cost may be to high). 

I&#039;m interested to see how Guvera turns out, but until they open the gates and we can use the service I&#039;m holding back a lot of my judgement.

John, I also think that there is also a difference between what the artist gets vs the music label. Not knowing how different it is, I&#039;m sure there would be different points of view if they entered into the argument (in most cases I&#039;ve seen on the internet it is Consumer vs Music Label with no comment from the artists themselves)...

I wrote a quick post about Imogen Heap and how she is using technology today which you may find interesting http://www.jason-v.com/2009/09/02/imogen-heap-on-enterprise-2-0/. There is a link on there to the original post which has been written fairly well and worth the read.

Jason</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not all songs are available iTunes and certain artists, companies aren&#8217;t available. This goes to my point that you can&#8217;t be dependant on one particular model/ avenue.</p>
<p>Also business who work through iTunes have complained about their pricing policy the apple has enforced in the past. </p>
<p>Good to see you mentioned that &#8220;normally&#8221; people wont share songs they have downloaded on iTunes.</p>
<p>I see your point on value, but what if you applied that concept to a friend giving you a CD? The value to the friend is low as they wouldn&#8217;t get the CD themselves. So do you count that as a loss for the industry, or do you count that as potential value that the friend may enjoy it and place a greater value on the next CD in future?</p>
<p>Guvera still puts a value on each song, as from what I can tell a user will have go through an channel which is heavily marketed to download the song. Which the user is aware of that it will cost that advertiser money. So the user knows that if &#8220;I&#8221; download song a, from Coke it will cost Coke $1.50 (or whatever the cost is).</p>
<p>I think in time and if the service gets popular, Guvera will find that Coke wont place such a great value on the song (as if a million people download the song in a week, the cost may be to high). </p>
<p>I&#8217;m interested to see how Guvera turns out, but until they open the gates and we can use the service I&#8217;m holding back a lot of my judgement.</p>
<p>John, I also think that there is also a difference between what the artist gets vs the music label. Not knowing how different it is, I&#8217;m sure there would be different points of view if they entered into the argument (in most cases I&#8217;ve seen on the internet it is Consumer vs Music Label with no comment from the artists themselves)&#8230;</p>
<p>I wrote a quick post about Imogen Heap and how she is using technology today which you may find interesting <a href="http://www.jason-v.com/2009/09/02/imogen-heap-on-enterprise-2-0/" rel="nofollow">http://www.jason-v.com/2009/09/02/imogen-heap-on-enterprise-2-0/</a>. There is a link on there to the original post which has been written fairly well and worth the read.</p>
<p>Jason</p>
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